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In addition to moth-nibbled holes in multiple wool socks earlier, this week when I cleaned out the closet I found two older, not-too-precious sweaters that had been definitely eaten, so we were forced to learn about what to do with clothes moths.

I had seen moth traps before, but I didn't realize that those only work on male moths and so they don't help your clothes at all, they just alert you if you might have an infestation. If you do, you have to kill all potential moth eggs in every piece of fabric in your closet with either heat or cold (or like... poison. Mothballs are poison. They are bad for people and animals as well as for moths though, they stink, and they need very specific conditions to work at all, so they're not nearly as useful as heat or cold).

If a fabric thing made with natural fibers (synthetic fibers repel moths but unfortunately they also repel us, because they tend to feel like shit on your skin as well as not breathing, retaining odor, harboring bacteria and fun stuff like that, because they are plastic) has been in near contact with clothes-eating moths, you have just a few alternatives:

  • dry clean it (this will kill the moths and presumably dry cleaning chemicals don't leave the clothes poisonous to people? I've never had my clothes dry cleaned, but surely I'd've heard about it if it poisoned people?)

  • kill it with cold: hang outside when it's well below freezing, like around -17 C (around +1 F) for a few days

  • kill it with cold: put it in the freezer for a few days, making sure the freezer is set cold enough

  • kill it with heat: put it in the oven for a couple of hours at about 70° C or 158° F

  • kill it with heat: put it in a sauna at around 70-80 C for a couple of hours


Luckily we DO have a sauna, so that's where nearly every scrap of wool from the house is right now. The silk scarves are going in the freezer, and all the cotton and linen is going back through the washing machine on hot - including all the stuff from the Rarely Worn side of the closet and all the stuff that's already been washed since it was worn (but was then put away in the contaminated closet).

Just half the closet made four loads of laundry. We don't have a dryer (hardly anyone in Finland has a dryer). And we only have three laundry racks!! (Which is already kind of ridiculous, tbh, if we WEREN'T trying to wash 80% of all the fabrics we own at once.) So. The constraint here is drying time.

Meanwhile, the closet, once emptied, needs to be vacuumed thoroughly, washed with warm water, and... it would help if the wood were painted but it's too late for that now (oil paint drying time is way too long to go without a closet and the fumes so close to our bedroom... just no), so I guess we'll just have to put up some of those moth traps for early warning and try to scatter aromatic herbs everywhere, although the word from experts is that none of them reliably works as moth repellent apart from cedar, and cedar only works in an enclosed space where the concentration of cedar oil in the wood is quite high. So I guess... the inside of a chest that's been, what, soaked in cedar oil or something?

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Date: 11 Jun 2022 06:56 pm (UTC)
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
If you have a pile of paper (not books but a stack of loose bills, or letters, or whatever) check in them for eggs and caterpillars. They are white with a dark dot on the head. (I speak from experience.)

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Date: 11 Jun 2022 09:24 pm (UTC)
krait: dark-skinned alien in armour (Foreigner - security)
From: [personal profile] krait
Oh, no!! I'm so sorry; what a horrendous nuisance that sounds like. D:< I hope you can get everything washed and dried effectively without it taking forever! And wiped, and vacuumed, and so on.

Could you set up a box fan or stand fan in front of the drying racks, to help get things dried faster?

So I guess... the inside of a chest that's been, what, soaked in cedar oil or something?

Generally the chest is made of cedar! Cedar chests have long been used for fabric storage for this reason, and for closets, too. If you have non-cedar wood, though, you might be able to buy those cedar blocks/balls that are made for storage to place inside the closet in several spots?

Some random examples, though unfortunately not from Finnish sources:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/CEDAR-GREEN-Aromatic-Cedar-Blocks-36-Piece-2-5-x1-5-x0-75-C316-3/313214703

https://cedar-sense.com/product/cedar-balls-moth-repellant-all-natural/#tab-description

Hopefully they are available there, too!
Edited Date: 11 Jun 2022 09:26 pm (UTC)

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Date: 18 Jun 2022 02:55 am (UTC)
krait: a sea snake (krait) swimming (Default)
From: [personal profile] krait
Ah, I see! And yep, it definitely fades over time. (My mother had one; I remember the smell being strong when I first smelled it, but in later years it didn't have much scent.) I have heard of people using sandpaper on cedar closets to renew the scent, so maybe the same goes for the chests? Might be good for a couple of "renewals" before having to buy the oil, anyway. It does sound like it would be difficult to oil a large container without the oil getting on the cloth; soaking chips or blocks would probably be easier, since you can take them out to oil them and only put them back in when they've absorbed it all, compared to a chest or closet where you'd have to take all the linens out.

Either way, I'm glad the sauna method also exists. :D It sounds much less messy, and the drying can't take any longer than oiled wood would take to dry.
Edited Date: 18 Jun 2022 02:56 am (UTC)

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Date: 11 Jun 2022 10:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] princessofgeeks
OH NO

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Date: 11 Jun 2022 10:49 pm (UTC)
stranger: Zhaan from Farscape (Zhaan)
From: [personal profile] stranger
Aaagh, in sympathy. It sounds like far too much trouble for nearly anything except, well, keeping most of your clothes instead of losing them.

In case it becomes relevant, dry cleaning (if Finnish cleaners are anything like U.S. cleaners) is safe and useful for most purposes, especially killing moth eggs, but it is expensive. If you already have the sauna, it sounds like a good option.

Second the recommendation for cedar blocks or balls as ongoing preventatives, especially in closed drawers or boxes -- always assuming no one in the house is allergic to or repulsed by cedar.

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Date: 12 Jun 2022 12:30 am (UTC)
viggorlijah: Klee (Default)
From: [personal profile] viggorlijah
What about storing your less used items inside boxes (plastic would be best unfortunately but cardboard boxes or fabric like ikea has for storage too) and tucking a piece of céder and herbs inside each box?

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Date: 12 Jun 2022 02:16 pm (UTC)
stellar_dust: Stylized comic-book drawing of Scully at her laptop in the pilot. (Default)
From: [personal profile] stellar_dust
I store my woolens in boxes or drawers with cedar blocks when I’m not using them. If they have to hang, what about garment bags with cedar and herbs inside? You can also get cedar blocks with hangar heads attached. One of those at the top of the garment bag with another block and some herbs resting in the bottom should hopefully help.

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Date: 12 Jun 2022 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oracne
I hope all that works!

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