cimorene: closeup of a large book held in a woman's hands as she flips through it (reading)
I recently read quite a long and clearly carefully thought-out fanfiction novella that was mostly epistolary and consistently misspelled 'psychiatrist' as 'physiatrist' the entire time.

The story didn't say explicitly that it was or wasn't beta read, but this is a spellcheck-level error anyway, although a physiatrist IS a thing (but not, I think, the kind of thing that would be in a spellchecker dictionary? I mean given the hundreds and hundreds of real words they fail to recognize). Of course, the physiatrist is a practicing doctor too so it introduces another element: could this character actually BE a physiatrist?

I only know what they do from wikipedia, but this character seems to just do various normal talk therapy and prescribe standard depression and anxiety meds and I can't see how it could fit. But it's not actually IMPOSSIBLE that the character's job could be filled by one: physiatrists are rehab specialists, but it's usually physical injury and disabiliy rehab, and the one in the story was just doing addiction counseling. Occam's razor would normally dictate a typo, but when it's consistently spelled that way the whole time that's impossible, plus the rehabilitation specialist doing (apparently the wrong type of) rehabilitation is probably too much coincidence for that. Or rather, not too much coincidence to occur at all, but too much coincidence to be on the side against you when using Occam's razor, maybe?

We're definitely not looking at a piece of writing from someone with dyslexia who hasn't had it spellchecked or proofread, going by the low level of such mistakes in the rest of the text. And it was quite good! So I'm still thinking about this more than a day later.

...This type of mystery is actually one of my favorite things about fandom. They crop up much less in published work.
cimorene: cartoon woman with short bobbed hair wearing bubble-top retrofuturistic space suit in front of purple starscape (intrepid)
I just read an UNIRONIC Tumblr wall of text unironically reblogged by someone I follow that argues that the rise of antis is due to the advent of 24-hr news "inventing" punditry (because, they argue, they had to, because not enough real things happen in the world to fill a whole day with news otherwise), and hence that punditry didn't exist until the late 90s, and that the spread of punditry and commentary on the news directly caused the erosion of the societal concepts of truth and facts, leading to the organic evolution of antis when young children were naturally led by overexposure to opinion writings and under exposure to fact-based news imparting to mistakenly assume their opinions about reality were more important than reality itself. Another poster then adds that the disappearance of real journalism in the 1990s means that all children brought up after that era aren't taught how to detect bullshit, which used to be learned naturally by exposure to good quality tv news apparently. And then a clown car appears and the last poster emerges and in complete earnestness explains that all of this is actually the result of postmodernism, which they personify as a malignant force actively desirous of eradicating the concept of 'truth' entirely.

And then there's a bunch of tags and stuff earnestly telling everybody to read the whole wall of text because it's really good.



Now my eyes are metaphorically bleeding and I've still got vertigo from the fifteen seconds I read the last response thinking it was sarcasm before the awful truth dawned on me.

Quick question: is a take's heat solely determined by its stupidity or is it partly freshness? Because this last take - 'antis are because postmodernism' - is in one sense SCORCHING, but OTOH 'postmodernism is actively trying to destroy society because it hates truth' is a take so stale that I learned ABOUT it at university as HISTORY. History that happened in part before I was born.
cimorene: two men in light linen three-piece suits and straw hats peering over a wrought iron railing (poirot)
Browsing bookmarks from 2011 and it's both hilarious and a breath of fresh air that the tags are like "modern AU, television, chess" and "fake dating, politics, architect" and don't all include a 15-item list of ludicrously specific sex acts including stuff like "face touching while kissing" and "anal fingering (two fingers)" and "shower foreplay". A novella with a total of three additional tags?! 😂
cimorene: A shaggy little long-haired bunny looking curiously up into the camera (bunny)
The last time I checked my inbox someone had commented that they knew the author was probably never going to see their comment, but... .

They perhaps think this because the last comments above weren't answered, but I do get notifications for every comment! There's emails and there's an inbox there on the site! My bookmarks are active and all my other online presences are linked in my profile, so it's not like you could think I'd gafiated.

Even weirder, on a fic that's one of two I wrote for the same romantic relationship that it's probably ruined them for this pairing forever. This would be a great compliment if it weren't implying they can't even read my other one (which is a lot better IMO, and isn't LITERAL teeniefic. The teeniefic is purple prose, which I have to assume is why so many more people like it? But it could also just be because the other one isn't rated E).
cimorene: closeup of a large book held in a woman's hands as she flips through it (reading)
I haven't watched the Mandalorian yet. I'm a fan of Star Wars and I always check out what the fanfiction looks like for each new live-action piece of it, but like many others, I've been dealing with so many emotions from real life that I seem to have a limited amount of emotional bandwidth and attention with which to process new fictional stories that require emotional engagement and might have like... conflict... and suspense. I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually.

In the meantime, I'm still aware of new developments through fandom osmosis on Tumblr (I don't bother avoiding spoilers for most things). So I was aware when Timothy Olyphant showed up with a fetching undercut and I know that spoilers for season 2 of The Mandalorian ) (No spoiler content below this paragraph in the post itself.)

So to reiterate, in summary: less than a minute of shared screentime?, two weeks ago; and already 69 fics in the ship on AO3. (Nice.) (None of them including 69ing.)

I poked through the headers a bit, as is my wont, and discovered:

  • a bunch of WIPs begun

  • a bunch of short-to-medium-length essentially fluffy shippy first time stories

  • more than one extremely long shippy fic that was already written before the episode/character introduction, lol

  • of course several people had already managed to finish shippy first-time fics that were over 10k words: not a lot of them, but a few


I opened a couple to skim through the beginnings and ends (of the long ones) or the whole thing (of the short ones) in curiosity... and something jumped out at me after a while:

The lack of explicit sex.

I saw some fluff, some fade to black, and a bit of unexplicit sex was present in the stories with sort of partial fade-to-black or rather vague references, but when I finally found one (that still wasn't entirely explicit, actually), it jostled the elbow of my memories from TPM fandom, sort of.

Now, there isn't a TOTAL absence of explicit sex in this pairing; last night there were 100 works exactly on AO3 and 10 were rated E, for 10%. BUT when you apply many of my usual filters...

  • only finished works (8)

  • that were written after the episode aired and hence not in a canon-divergent au (4)

  • excluding threesomes with Boba Fett (3)


... you come up with three, one of which says in the headers that it's "my first smut".

Because the first thing I read in TPM was a kink novelette set in a bdsm club (when you're introduced to a fandom via multifannish recs lists it tends to be the iconic ones), it's possible that my memories are a little skewed, but the contrast seemed rather shocking. I mean...

... even apart from how much kink there was in TPM (which felt like about half of it at times but I'll guess was probably more like 5-10%?) wasn't explicit sex like... the default? At least a quarter or a third of it?

(Feel free to argue with my impressions, anybody else who used to hang out in the TPM-era slash archives.)

Anyway, though, it really did make me wonder about how much the fandom demographics have shifted, both overall on AO3, and possibly specifically in Star Wars as a result of Disney producing constant kids' animated content for it for ten years.
cimorene: closeup of a large book held in a woman's hands as she flips through it (reading)
I've been reading one of those fascinating writers who seem to have a great deal of talent and no self-discipline.

By that I mean they're writing only for pleasure, yes, but that doesn't indicate lack of self-discipline in itself because in principle writing just to please yourself is a very good thing; but sometimes I just think the author HAS to be having a great time since everything is PAINFULLY obviously driven by wish fulfillment rather than taste, logic or characterization. In spite of obvious talent and skill at writing itself, I mean, where the surface level of writing is good or even great, things like narration and dialogue: this is a writer who could produce stuff I'd rate 110% if they were given a detailed plot outline by someone better at plots than they are and then edited by a sufficiently harsh beta.

As a reader, I... don't really enjoy reading about how all my favorite characters from disparate corners of canon, no matter how remote and unlikely, meet and become the best friends ever and subsequently triumph over every single character I've ever disliked through various embarrassments and humiliations while the world in general agrees explicitly how great my faves are and how pathetic their enemies. I did briefly write a few things like that when I was ten or twelve, and I read the slightly more refined wish fulfillment/Chosen One genre avidly a bit longer than that (Mercedes Lackey mostly), but... for my present enjoyment things would have fewer unpleasant people popping out to be vanquished and the skill and renown of the protagonist wouldn't be continuously increasing so regularly and explicitly. Partly it's just that it's so blatant that it's embarrassing to read and strains suspension of disbelief because I keep noticing the characterization being bent out of shape (hence my reference to the 'slightly more refined' version, ie wish fulfillment that is all about the Chosen One being showered with praise and recognition but without straining credulity as obviously and usually, when published as books like Harry Potter or the Vorkosigan books, broken up with more challenges and problems). But it also just leaves me a bit cold in this form because it's not my particular narrative kink, as it were.

I suppose this kind of wish fulfillment reading must feel for some people like the most engaging and soothing and comforting thing to read ever, so... then the question becomes, what DO I want for my favorite characters?

It isn't something I'd given a lot of thought to over time, but fortuitously, just a couple of weeks ago [personal profile] yvannairie recommended me this gen Transformers series, Xenoethnography by [archiveofourown.org profile] Therrae. And this is pretty much that ideal made real. In fact, I don't have a strong preference for gen, but this is such great gen for such a long time that it's an exemplary opportunity to examine the best stuff that can happen to a beloved protagonist personally as opposed to interpersonally: Therrae's OC social scientist is useful, in fact, crucial for her expertise, and she is introduced to the community of extraterrestrials living in secret and helps them and others in important ways while constantly learning more about their alien culture and psychology and gradually getting to know a wide variety of different characters. (It's Transformers fic, which is hilarious because Transformers, so the aliens are sentient robots, but the genre and register is very classic [second wave or later] science fiction.)

Put like this, the description also explains why I love CJ Cherry's Foreigner series, which was my favorite in high school (I haven't read the last few books mostly because it's so long now that trying to reread it all to remind myself what happened can take months and months each time and I keep getting distracted. I probably need all of them as ebooks in order to manage). But this learning and confidently using extant expertise also pinpoints some of the stuff we in fandom often loved about, say, SGA fic (applying to Rodney but also to John), and also to part of what really entices me about my current favorite book series, Catriona McPherson's 1920s Dandy Gilver mysteries. The found family and alien culture window character applies to popular portrayals of Stiles in Teen Wolf (although this dynamic quickly got overrun with the "pack mom" fanon, which felt weird and kinky for me and kept grossing me out to the point of becoming a pet peeve) and to the Nero Wolfe mysteries that I devoured last year at [personal profile] princessofgeeks's recommendation.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (art deco)
I've just seen another of those viral posts go by saying 'As a writer we obsess over researching and fact-checking but as a reader we never check' [implying the fact-checking is potentially unnecessary].

And the point of this post isn't 'as a reader I DO frequently notice errors that could have been researched' - because indeed, most people can't avoid noticing errors from their areas of knowledge, so it's just a matter of how often your reading intersects with those areas. I've posted about that point before and commented often enough on other people's posts on the subject - on subjects as diverse as gas stations, horse shoes, life in modern Norway and Finland and Estonia, how schools and cars work in the US and UK, medieval rabbit-keeping, stone age and bronze age techology, and early modern undergarments... ahem.

Anyway, the point isn't that if it's a thing that plenty of people know about, they're going to notice, and there are plenty of people who DO know how horse shoes work or what percentage of Norwegian or Estonian adults speak English, so if you don't know why WOULDN'T you check?

And the point also isn't that I do also fact-check things I'm reading frequently, regardless of whether they're fiction or not; I'm a curious person and love trivia, and when something sounds suspicious, my default position is to check (and this is true of plenty of other people too, obviously).

The point is that the structure of this type of viral post is self-reinforcing (encourages response from people who agree and non-engagement from people who don't, so there is no way to count dislikes/disagrees), and while that is sometimes value-neutral, because lots of 'so relatable' posts are perfectly true of lots of people and make no claims to universality, it can also oftentimes be used to convey a false impression of general relevance in the genre of Fandom Positivity posts (perhaps I should say memes, because they're recurrent ideas and debates).

There's a whole genre of posts about fandom and fanfiction and writing meant to be positive or reassuring which generally and repeatedly argue that

  • (a) fic writers are just too self-critical, because (b) nobody in the audience is going to notice anyway


  • (A) is valid1 because too much self-criticism can lead to writer's block and many people struggle with it, but (b) is not true; criticism based on fact-checking is a normal feature of how people respond to media and non-fiction, so the claim is not really credible anyway, but negative comments and flames are also a thing in some parts of fandom; so denying that this is a danger isn't doing anybody any favors, even if it did convince them. It could be helpful to discuss how flames and other negative responses are rare in most parts of fandom instead.

    1. Unless it's about thinking they need to beta their fic before they post it; that isn't overly critical, it's exactly correct in that it is the choice that's most civilized and considerate of the other people in their community.

  • (a) readers who are intimidated by the idea of leaving comments are just being too self-critical, because (b) no matter what it says authors are always overjoyed to receive more comments


  • (A) always struck me as a little condescending, because I don't think that social anxieties about commenting to a possible stranger are actually reducible just to a fear that what you say won't be smart enough. On the other hand, it's true in making feedback comments, like in communicating in a foreign language, that the important thing is getting the feel of your message across and it doesn't matter if the presentation isn't a flawless marvel of diplomatic eloquence - and this is probably the true essence of what the well-meaning posts of the above type are trying to get across. They often get sidetracked into layers of testiomonials to (b), however, which isn't really true because fandom has plenty of people with anxieties about inboxes to go around, and lots of other people don't want their readers guilted into feedback; and because there have been plenty of comments over the years that deliberately or accidentally offended the writer (or someone else). It's safe to say that very few authors are happy to receive unintentionally offensive, argumentative, or otherwise disturbing comments (leaving flames aside for the moment). If worrying a little over whether your comment is really going to be welcome can cause some people to change their minds about a comment that otherwise would have told the author that the fic was great except they were wrong to characterize X as a top, or except that they would have been emotionally satisfied if the author included their kink in the final scene... well, many authors would probably welcome that.


There aren't a plethora of viral posts going around like "What's the worst comment you've ever got?" because while it's not that rare to get one, it's bad to draw more attention to trolls, and if the person really meant well, there's nothing to gain from naming and shaming them; the majority of cases of these will ultimately be down to people's different ideas of what behavior is acceptable and not to any malice.

There aren't viral posts going "Fact check your fucking fics" because we all know that trying to do so is the default position; instead there are viral posts with advice for how to research and fact-check things. The majority of errors that slip through in fanfiction aren't facts that someone wilfully refused to look up, but rather things that they didn't realize they didn't know (the Dunning-Kruger effect is a feature of human cognitive bias and our tendency to fill in the details we deem unimportant, often subconsciously - it doesn't only apply to spectacular cases of idiocy). Most of the time they will have researched, but simply not known that particular question was there to be checked on; so no viral advice would help much anyway besides 'research, research, research' (and maybe 'get more betas', but if they're not experts they're not foolproof either of course).

There aren't viral posts going "I don't need more comments than the amount I get" or "I like comments that have something to say, but if the whole message is basically 'thanks' or 'heart' then that's what the kudos button is for" probably because these are essentially the position of a person who has no complaint with the current system, and viral I Have No Complaint With the Current System!!! posts are slow to gain momentum.
cimorene: closeup of a large book held in a woman's hands as she flips through it (reading)
I've reread a bunch of SGA fic in the last two days, and every time I'm reminded about Don't Ask Don't Tell and marriage inequality, I get a little jarring moment of 'WEIRD!' Even though I lived through that reality, and that fandom, and the concerns were contemporary at the time!

I was rereading Highlander a bit a couple of weeks ago, and it's set during the period where the AIDS crisis was a thing! (Not that it's relevant to the magically healing characters really, but I guess the movement to make a big deal about condoms & lube was gaining quite a bit of steam around the late 90s to make up for all the years where no lube or condoms in fic was the norm.) Now I'm thinking... does the crisis make an appearance in Sentinel fic, where at least the characters are both human, or is it late enough (and AIDS enough of a downer) that it only appears indirectly, in the form of condom hygiene? I haven't reread a bunch of Sentinel fic in years.
cimorene: A shaggy little long-haired bunny looking curiously up into the camera (curious)
Sometimes you know you're going to hate all of it, but you have to experience it anyway because some bizarre sense of internal fairness tells you that it's not technically fair to decide (even privately) that you hate it without giving it a chance, but once you check you'll be free to judge it with a clear conscience.

The reaction videos I've seen for Cats make this familiar process look a lot more fun than it usually feels to me, though. I laughed all the way through Folding Ideas's.
cimorene: closeup of a large book held in a woman's hands as she flips through it (reading)
Every now and then I see the "N times X and one time Y" story format and momentarily rue the day [personal profile] basingstoke started the Five Things That Didn't Happen trend.

But the thing is, when you think about it, who could ever have predicted that 'five short aus' would mutate into 'a few chronological scenes with some common thread followed by one that's related but different'? And honestly, I'd like to shake the dice again and reroll trope history from there with her still doing it, in case we could somehow get the au idea to take off instead.
cimorene: closeup of Jeremy Brett as Holmes raising his eyebrows from behind a cup of steaming tea (eyebrows)
"But that's the COMPLETELY wrong period, it's AT LEAST two decades off! That hem? Those shoes? How could they be so sloppy knowing that nobody would be able to achieve suspension of disbelief unless—

"— Oh. Unless they... didn't have a firm grasp of historical clothing in the —th century by decade... which... is probably almost everybody. Right."

—Me, at least once per week, on historical fanart or fanfiction
cimorene: A woman sitting on a bench reading a book in front of a symmetrical opulent white-and-gold hotel room (studying)
Is it just me or is "was sat" erroneously occurring in non-British fanfic narration on the rise over time?

*that is to say, very annoying, but not as annoying as "whilst"
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (evil)
For me, at least, evaluating a work of two-dimensional representational visual art is much faster and easier than evaluating a work of fiction. This isn't to say that making it, or indeed analyzing it, is easier - it's simply due to the way you take in pictures, where a glance gives you a summary (at least if the whole thing fits within your field of view), and the longer you look, the more detail you fill in; whereas you have to read a story from beginning to end.

I could grade the artistic skill in execution of a drawing/painting from, say, 1-10 (though this would be an oversimplification because the skill evinced in a work is actually a combination of many different skills), to give a rough idea, much faster than of a story or poem - in fact, in around the amount of time that it takes to evaluate the headers on a work of fanfiction. I'm not saying that would be an extremely fair and accurate or whole representation of the value and interest inherent in that work, but I could make some progress towards categorizing a stack of pictures by skill level.

Doing that for the same number of stories would take significantly longer. Just reading 10 randomly-selected stories would probably take longer than sorting 10 randomly-selected pictures.

It's occurred to me before that some people don't notice, or can't identify, things like warped perspective or proportions or joints in the wrong places: just as some people don't notice little wrinkles in the likeness of written pastiche, like word choice or character or tone. (Or more visually, just as some people don't spot cracks or stains in a busy wallpaper or can't tell that a curtain is polyester by looking up close and touching it, two examples from our recent house-buying experience. I was completely confused by Wax and her mom disregarding these things and it turned out they both couldn't see them.)

But fanfiction can provide another instructive example, which is that we aren't all looking for the same things out of our reading material (or art). Some people consider characterization the most important part of any piece of fanfiction; other people change it on purpose, or don't care about it at all (and for most people this probably varies by fandom and character). If you look at fanart drawn by young men - and sometimes at professional comics art - you'll easily find plenty of art by people who care much more about whether a drawing depicts a character with large breasts than whether the breasts are shaped like breasts, or whether the character otherwise bears any resemblance to canon. (And within a few degrees of my social media it's easy to find skilled artists whose individual styles lean away from realism, and also to find people impressed by subject matter - say, kissing - more than by execution.)

This sounds obvious when I put it like this, but I've had this epiphany fairly recently when it comes to fanart. Something about the medium and the way I react emotionally to visual art makes it harder for me to remember it; my perceptions feel more clear-cut, self-evident, and universal than they do with reading.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (exposition with a bare abdomen)
I've noticed a distinct pattern in some fannish people I know IRL, which is that the ones who don't Go Here in fandom never know when people and movies are canceled or on notice and usually haven't even heard a hint of why they're problematic, leading to hundreds of instances of this conversation:

THEM: I saw [media thing associated with a controversy].
ME: Yikes...
THEM: It was so good!


Explaining the controversy isn't that difficult if it's just something like "Actually it turns out that the director/writer went on a bigoted rant/has been accused of sexual harrassment" or "The role of X was whitewashed". But in the case of the well-meaning but clueless social-justice-supporting white people - initially mostly my parents, but a few members of my generation who just happen to also be Luddites - they never seem to notice cultural appropriation, white savior narratives, fridging, or unfortunate political ramifications, and the repetitiveness of this same consciousness-raising conversation with its small list of curated reference links starts to feel uncomfortably didactic, especially because the more awkward I feel, the harder I have to work to explain coherently.

The temptation is strong to just say nothing about it to escape this, but it seems a bit shady to not even indicate I was put off by something about it, if they were engaging me in fannish conversation in good faith.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (this place isn't punk rock)
[personal profile] ruinsplume posted: My take on the whole Hugo Awards thing (this is an excerpt only)
i close my eyes
and count to three
and wait for men
to ’splain to me

how i have sore
misunderstood
and have won naught
and am not gude

ao3ple

23 Sep 2019 09:36 pm
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (the thinker)
The term "AO3ple" is pretty terrific, at least, and I hope it becomes as popular as it deserves. If it does, this wank will have a positive legacy after all!
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (joy)
[personal profile] 0ftgx posted: .0000000001%
ETA 20 Sep: An AO3 user has helpfully posted a sample Cease & Desist Letter (for use by the WSFS).

But I am dyyyying. Because apparently the reason why the Mark Protection Committee for the WSFS hasn't been issuing C&Ds--the actual useful thing to do--is possibly because their budget is so tiny that they can't afford a lawyer. My understanding is they don't necessarily need a lawyer to issue C&Ds, but they would if anybody pushed back against them. And if they don't know how to phrase a C&D, well, there they go, all done for them by a 1/millionth winner of a Hugo Award.

When one of the MPC, the commmittee, mentioned being skint on that File 770 post linked above & said they were hoping to find a lawyer willing to work pro bono, somebody else replied something like: "Oh! If only there were a large fannish organisation that has a bunch of great lawyers who volunteer their time...."


And read the Ursula Vernon quote in the post underneath this quote. LOL.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (magic)
[personal profile] synecdochic posted: they really should have known the one thing we know is how to bring receipts

File 770 site owner refusing to let through [personal profile] synecdochic's cited comments debunking that copyright lawyer guy's willful misrepresentation of copyright law and sharing an email conversation with her on the subject with his friend who was busy attacking in defence of the Hugo's honor all over said comment section.

Oh, okay.
cimorene: A giant disembodied ghostly green hand holding the Enterprise trapped (you shall not pass)
That parody fic about the fans of a fictional hockey team saying "We won the Stanley Cup" (recommended, no real sports knowledge necessary) and the rest of this situation gave me a beautiful mental image of a Hugo award going on world tour the way the Stanley Cup does, spending a week with each team member the summer after they win.

WHAT IF: Every Fan on AO3 coming up with increasingly kinky uses for said statue and liveblogging 'their day' (or I guess it's a summer divided by a million users or whatever, so it's probably more like their 5 seconds) with photo[shop]s!

Of course, being a salad bowl, the Stanley Cup is suited for drinking champagne out of, eating cereal out of, carrying babies in, etc. The Hugo is a cigar-shaped rocket, which is... pretty dildoish, honestly, so aside from just photographing it in different places Amelie (or meme) -style, it's maybe harder to think beyond the obvious off-label usage... :

  • Paint stirrer? Drink stirrer?

  • Murder weapon?

  • Doorstop

  • Actual very tiny rocketship in a battle with tiny space aliens, provided some kind of ray gun was used to miniaturize the passengers first

  • Hood ornament

  • A character in a comic

  • A bollard for a rather small road/parking lot

  • A plumb bob


I know most of these aren't very kinky, but the kinkier ones seemed like low-hanging fruit, given the shape. I mean, we've all read the fic. At least, everyone sharing the award has.
cimorene: closeup of Jeremy Brett as Holmes raising his eyebrows from behind a cup of steaming tea (eyebrows)
[personal profile] elf posted: One-Millionth of a Hugo
But, says JJ at File 770: If the members of AO3 get to call themselves official Hugo Award Winners, then so do all of the commenters at File 770, and so do all of the people who’ve had works published in Uncanny Magazine — and at that point, the official term “Hugo Award Winner” has lost all meaning.

Does File 770 tell its commenters, "you are wanted; you are an essential part of this blog site; it was created so you would have a place to make these comments?" Does it say, "we have created tools that let you post and edit and seek out comments like yours; please send us feedback on how to improve the comment threading?"

Do the authors who are published in Uncanny, choose what they get to publish there? Are they welcome to join a committee and shape the rules for what Uncanny will publish? Does Uncanny say, "Please send your creative works to us; we want them all; this magazine exists to showcase as much of your work as you are willing to share?"

Neither File 770 nor Uncanny was created to support all of the people involved in it equally. Neither of them allows random people to become contributors to searchable, front-page content. Neither of them says: "Your works are welcome here, even the ones that are antisocial, even the ones we personally don't like, because this is your home if you want it to be."

AO3 is not a curated collection; it's a community.

I am done with listening to gatekeeping men who want to put lines around our creativity, who want to declare that while yes, two authors can both win for "best novella" and a team of 6 can win a "best fanzine" or "best podcast" award, a team of a million can't possibly win the "best related work" award.

Fuck that.

The WSFS doesn't get to tell us how AO3 works. That's the whole point of AO3. This is our archive and we make the rules here.

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